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When Phil Libin co-founder evernote he’s spent tons of money creating the perfect work environment with chic offices, a shuttle bus, and headphones to shut out his employees’ distracting colleagues. He has since seen the work from home light and is co-founder of mmhmm to make remote working more efficient and enjoyable. In this episode, Phil breaks his communication pyramid, explains how embracing asynchronous videos changed everything about meetings on mmhmm, and explains why he’ll never work in the metaverse.

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